2025 NADE & AFDE SYMPOSIUM
"Examining
Paper Documents in a Digital World"
Kansas City, Missouri
Friday, October 3
(8:00 am) - Sunday October 5 (5:30 pm), 2025
401 Ward Parkway
Kansas City,
Missouri 64112
NADE and AFDE are meeting together this year for
a joint Conference and Symposium. The 2025 theme will be
“Paper Documents in a Digital World.” Program details will
be posted as available. The 2025 Conference and Symposium
will cover a broad range of subjects of interest to
Forensic Document Examiners. A panel providing “Tips for
Testimony,” and poster sessions, are annual favorites.
The Program Chairman and contact person for submission
of presentation and poster session titles and abstracts
for consideration is
Jacqueline
Joseph.
We hope you will join us for an interesting and
informative program.
HOTEL INFORMATION

Famous for barbecue,
fountains, and the architecturally stunning historic Country
Club Plaza marketplace, downtown Kansas City offers a plethora
of activities. Popular destinations, Arrowhead Stadium and
Kansas City Zoo, are also close to the hotel. The hotel is 30
minutes from Kansas City International Airport (MCI).
Hotel room rates are $169.00 plus taxes per night (single
or double), and include a free parking and internet. The hotel
room rates apply three days before and three days after the
symposium. For information on how to reserve a room,
click
here. Room reservation is
online
at this link.
- PROGRAM - 2025 Symposium - 8:30am Friday-5:30 pm
Sunday
Deep Metadata in PDFs: Hidden Digital
Fingerprints - What Forensic Document Examiners Need to
Know About Metadata
Celeste Makoff
Every digital document tells two stories. The first is
what you see - the text, images and formatting. The second
story is invisible, but revealing - written in the
document's deep metadata. Deep metadata can reveal
revisions made, devises and software involved with the
document, and the history of the document's creation.
In the digital realm, it is a fundamental law that every
action must leave a trace. The metadata instructs the
computer about every font, color, images placement, and
more. Understanding what metadata exists and why can turn
the metadata into powerful tool for the FDE.
The AI Revolution in
Document Forensics
Celeste Makoff
Think of AI models as incredibly sophisticated pattern
matching machines. They’ve been trained on millions of
documents – learning what real contracts look like, how
people typically write emails, what authentic signatures
contain, etc. Just like a child learns language by hearing
thousands of conversations, AI learns document creation by
studying countless examples. When you ask AI to create
something it is essentially saying “Based on the millions of
examples I’ve seen, this is what should come next. It is
prediction – not understanding – but it is getting
frighteningly good at mimicking authenticity. This
presentation will explore how AI may influence the field of
forensic document examination.
Associating velocity
profiles to ink traces for forensic handwriting
examination
Rosanna Coccaro
In forensic handwriting examination, the handwriting is
only available on paper, and thus the kinematics of the
handwriting movement is partially lost. We argue that the
lost information, namely the velocity profile, is paramount
for accurately characterizing the samples under
investigation and their comparison. We address this issue by
reformulating the problem as a time-optimal trajectory
planning one and introducing an algorithm that assigns
velocity profiles to the offline data. We report the results
of the experiments we have designed and performed, that show
that enriching the path of the ink with the velocity profile
provided by our algorithm provides us with a good
approximation of the human sample and preserves the
intra-writer variability. Based on these findings, we have
outlined a procedure for implementing a thoughtful and
quantitative comparison between the handwriting samples
under examination, showing how the results may provide
robust evidence to the examiner for achieving the final
decision.
Helping Your Lawyer
Get the Most Out of You
Chris Angles, Attorney
Attorneys and Experts work separately in their own
specialties, but then work together to present a
comprehensive presentation to a trier of fact. Most
attorneys have zero or minimal experience working with a
forensic document examiner, so it is important for the
expert to help the attorney understand how to best
capitalize on the information the expert has to offer. That
is the focus of this presentation.
Which Hole is Which
Robin Williams, D-BFDE and Tamara Kaiden, FDE
This presentation will Introduce to the attendees the
different styles/classes of staplers, staples and their
relationship to one another. It is common for a document
examiner to encounter issues related to page substitution.
Whenever it is suspected that pages have been substituted in
a document bound with staples, a careful study of all staple
holes in each page/sheet should be made. If a sheet does not
contain the same number of holes as the other pages, or the
position of the hole(s) on a sheet does not match those of
the other sheets, then it is an indication that at one time
not all of the pages were part of the collection of sheets
or unit of sheets. The presenters will explain how to
resolve such issues related to staple holes in paper
documents by aligning, counting and identifying accurately
which holes are created by the actual perforation of the
paper created by the stapler/staple, versus analogous
perforations created by the stapler/staple.
Exploring Sparse
Literature, Case Studies, and Best Practices in Initials
Analysis
Susan Abbey, CDE, D-BFDE
With cases involving initials, what are the best
procedures? What does the literature say?
The literature is surprisingly sparse in this important
area. In this presentation references from authoritative
books and journals that are available will be cited.
Examples of cases where there are suspected page
substitutions and other types of cases where initials can
create difficulties or questions of authenticity will be
explored. Sources of initials for comparison purposes will
be suggested.
Signed by Hand or
Machine?
Jonathan Heckeroth, MSc.
This workshop explores the question of
whether signatures were written by hand or by a machine.
Participants will be challenged to distinguish between genuine
handwritten signatures and machine-written ones by examining a
variety of signature samples. The material is based on a 2019
research project conducted by the German Institute for
Questioned Document Examination. In addition to the practical
component, the workshop includes a presentation on signatures
written by machines. Key features that help differentiate
between handwritten and machine-written signatures will be
discussed, along with recommended procedures for examining
signatures produced by signing machines in forensic casework.
Digital Technology:
Updated Forensic Applications and Analysis
Heidi H. Harralson, CDE
This presentation focuses on updates
regarding digital technology as it applies to forensic
handwriting and document examination. Research and casework
regarding digitized documents and signatures including pixel
analysis of digitized signatures will be presented.
Identifying feature qualities of Optical Character Recognition
(OCR) and image recognition is important when evaluating
digitized documents for alteration. The increase of
sophisticated handwriting signature fonts and automated tools
for font analysis has relevance to present document
examination practices. Presentation will include information
about automated handwriting examination tools and explore the
use of AI and forensic intelligence.
The Known/Comparison
Signature Samples Are Not In Agreement – Now What?
Kurt E. Kuhn, FDE
One of the most important parts of the
forensic document examination examination process is the
analysis or inter-comparison of the known/comparison signature
samples that are submitted. This process allows the examiner
the opportunity to evaluate and document the individual
writing features that are present and to determine the range
of variation of the writer. But what happens when one (or
more) of the signature samples are not in agreement and appear
to be from a different writer? The answer has been present for
decades in the ASTM, the SWGDOC, and the new ASB Standard for
the Examination of Handwritten Items and provides direction to
the examiner. It also provides an option for the examiner that
may be challenged by the opposing examiner or counsel.
Dangers of Low Level
Opinions - Probative vs. Prejudicial
Emily J. Will, CDE, D-BFDE
In a field where opinions can not be formed
extensively on the basis of numerical calculations, words
matter. The opinion scales relied upon by most forensic
document examiners in the US have between 5 and 9 levels. The
descriptions of these levels are easily misapplied, adding to
the subjectivity of opinions. To further complicate matters,
civil cases typically have a "more likely than not" standard
which is considered to be more or less than 50% probability.
What really is going to be the difference between 51% and 49%
liklihood in a handwriting examination? This issue will be
explored in depth.
Microsoft Word &
Bierstadt/Aptos Fonts Give Document Date Clues
Thomas Phinney, MS, MBA, Font Detective
The Microsoft Word default font change from
Calibri to Aptos in 2024 is of great interest for document
examiners: obviously Aptos could not have been used before it
was designed, and it is now used any time a user does not
explicitly choose a different font. But Aptos was already
available as early as 2021, under the name of Bierstadt.
Phinney discusses and shows the subtle spacing differences
between Aptos and Bierstadt, and the timeline of the fonts'
availability. Less trumpeted than the Aptos switch are all the
other default document formatting changes Microsoft Word made
at the end of 2024: to margins, point size and kerning. Even
when Aptos is not in use, these other settings can provide
circumstantial evidence for document creation dates -
especially kerning, which is rarely manually turned on by most
users.
History and Features of U.S. Currency Notes
Christopher Burke
This presentation will showcase the history and document
features of U.S. Currency Notes. Items covered during this
presentation include: graphic features, material composition,
note production method, counterfeit note identification, and
historical U.S. banknotes with examples. This presentation
will offer a brief overview of some methods used to
authenticate documents and identify markers of potentially
counterfeit documents and provide real-world examples of
counterfeit notes.
The Intersection of
Forensic Digital Analysts and Forensic Document Examiners
Ben Rose
We work in a world that’s intertwined between
physical and digital documents. Forensic Document Examiners
provide expertise in examining the content of a document,
focusing on handwriting, ink, and signatures, to name a few.
Digital Forensic Analysts identify, collect, preserve, analyze
and produce Electronically Stored Information, also known as
“ESI.” Documents are collected in “forensically sound” and
“defensible” methods and are authenticated with digital
technologies. Examinations focus on file metadata, as well as
contextual information which may be identified on the
device(s) that created, stored and transmitted the documents.
This presentation aims to inform the audience on the
protocols, tools, capabilities and limitations encountered in
the digital forensics world.
Workshop on Highly
Stylized Signatures
Robin Williams, D-BFDE and Tamara Kaiden, FDE
Document Examiners occasionally encounter highly stylized
signatures when examining documents. A highly stylized
signature is defined as a signature where the letters or
characters are not easily decipherable as recognizable words
or letters. It’s a form of signature that often prioritizes
visual design and artistic expression over legibility. These
signatures are frequently used for personal branding, logos,
or artistic expression where the signature’s aesthetic is more
important than its readability.
Highly stylized signatures can raise some difficulty for
examiners depending upon whether enough exemplars were made
available to the examiner and/or whether a useful pattern is
observed. This workshop will be presented as a practical
exercise related to highly stylized signatures. The
participants will examine the signatures along with exemplars
and provide opinions as to the genuineness of each signature
presented. After the examinations have been completed,
discussions will be held involving the opinions of each of the
signatures.
AI Opinion vs. the Forensic Document Examiner's
M. Patricia Fisher, D-BFDE
In a recent case, my client informed me that a
paralegal in their office had used AI on the Claude app, one
of the frequently used AI apps, to analyze the same evidence
that I had analyzed. She said our opinions were similar. I
told the client that I did not want to know any more until
after my testimony. This presentation will show the PowerPoint
slides from my testimony and then show the results from
Claude. I also asked Celeste Makoff, our presenter on
metadata and AI, to run an additional signature that was more
complex and closer to the actual signatures of the Decedent,
through Chat GPT, Claude and other AI tools she uses.
Attendees will learn the limitations of using AI for
examinations and why it is important, for now, not to use AI
apps in forming opinions.
When Expert Opinions
Differ
Beverly East
In a June 2025 a disputed signature case in the
Supreme Court of New York involved two experts presenting
different opinions regarding the validity of
a signature on an Amended Lease Agreement. This presentation
includes the case report and highlights the following factors:
Why Experts differ!!
• Different training
• Different methodology
• Different documents examined
• Insufficient documents
• Cognitive bias
• Skill level of the experts
• Ethical issues
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Atkins Museum of Art. The personal HR Bloch
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Contemporary Museum of Art
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Hart Benton Home and Studio Museum 3613
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- World
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and have not been to this museum, it comes highly
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and others.
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